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ST70  RE-ENGINEERING.
This
page contains :-
General talk about what I did to an ST70 in
1999.
Fig 1. Very untidy and hard to read schematic for my 1999 work
on ST70.
The work included adding inbuilt line preamp, source
switch, dual gang volume pot, balance pot,
and numerous good
quality RCA input terminals and new speaker terminals.
Fig 2.
MUCH BETTER schematic for one channel of reformed ST70 amp, with cathode
bias,
no need for any negative supply. Many notes.
Fig 3.
Active protection schematic for any amp with multiple output tubes and
cathode bias.
Fig 4. Schematic for PSU for Reformed ST70 using
original 1960 PT if it is found to not run hot.
Notes about
why, etc.
Fig 5. Schematic for generic 35Watt PP UL amp which does
use a negative supply for CCS
in LTP stage. Can easily be
altered for fixed bias.

This page was first established in about
2006, and the latest page upgrade has been in
May 2014, when
I also created a page about the Dynaco
MkIV monoblocs which have
a very similar schematic to
one channel of the two channel Dynaco ST70.

My apologies
to all for presenting a very messy Fig 1 which is a hand-drawn schematic
for
what I did to an ST70 in 1999.

Before 1999, I
bought an ST70 which was offered to me for $200 and which was in
appalling
condition after
being parked in a garage for 15 years after a couple of output tubes
had died.

There were lots of problems within the amp. I
didn't like the typical Dynaco schematic
with 7199 / 6AN8. I thought
the power supply could be a lot better
and the driver amp could
be improved so I decided to strip
the whole amp and start all over again. The PSU had a
117Vac
mains input which ran way too hot with a correct step down tranny for
240Vac Oz mains.
I re-wound the PT
for use with our Oz mains of 250Vac most days, using more turns per volt

and a stack of iron 25mm higher than
original.
The PT ran much cooler and quieter.
I used Si diodes in revised PSU with higher C
values and I retained the tiny filter choke
which is actually
about only 1H with Idc present.

Unfortunately, I didn't photograph it before
I sold it easily when I placed it in a local hi-fi store for

sale on consignment. Its top cover looked better painted black. It ran
cool because I drilled
8mm holes all around each output tube socket
and I fitted 15mm feet under the amp and
perforated steel
bottom cover to allow generous air flow up through bottom and up

around tubes.

Fig
1 schematic below was created before I had become able to use Windows MS
Paint.
I also had very little time to spare. Fig 1 is extremely
cluttered and unclear since it includes
power supply for both
channels and one amp channel plus its protection circuits.

Notice the reformed ST70 has line level preamps added to both channels
and was integrated
so a separate integrated preamp was not needed
with most modern input signals from CD players.
Needless to
say, the circuitry under the chassis was crowded, but I found enough room
for everything.

The 1999 modification needs complete
re-appraisal.
I have since learnt to
create schematics in MS Paint, slow and laborious, but better
looking, and much
for anyone else to follow. I often use
2 or 3 sheets to contain all the
info on audio amp, PSU and
active protection measures.

Fig
1.

Rather than
explain what I did in 1999, I now present a reformed ST70
schematic drawn May 2014
which includes better
techniques than in 1999.

Fig 2.

Fig 2 shows one channel of the ST70 amp with slightly more
optimized values and a change to
cathode biasing of EL34.

The
original Dynaco printed circuit board for two 7199 / 6AN8 triode-pentode
input/driver tubes was
removed to the rubbish bin.

I
replaced the whole board with a small brass plate and with 4 ninepin
sockets to allow the use of two
12AU7 for preamps and power amp
inputs - and two 6CG7 for Long Tail Pair differential balanced

voltage amps. There is nothing wrong with using only 6CG7 as shown in
1999 schematic, but now
I think using 2AU7 for the line preamp and
the power amp SET input gain tube is better because
12AU7 has
less voltage gain, and huge gain is not needed. The two 12AU7 can each
have their
12.6V heaters between pins 4&5 both strapped across
12.6Vdc heater supply. See the reformed
PSU further down this
page. In fact, 12AU7 or 12BH7 may be used for LTP. Preamps can be
12AU7
with power amps inputs 6DJ8. But whatever is done, some changes
to R&C shown will have to be
very carefully calculated
and implemented.

V1
is 1/2 12AU7 for line stage pre-amp with gain = 15dB with unbypassed R9.
With balance control
included there is a 3dB loss of input
signal with R8 and VR1. So overall preamp gain = 4.6 x, or +13.2dB.

This assumes a CD player input = 1.4Vac, and you get V1 Va = 6.5Vac, and
VR1 volume control
then reduces this to whatever is needed for
listening. Volume is set at -11dB or say about 2pm for clipping,

and at about 9am for normal listening. An old FM tuner with standard
0.2vrms output will need volume raised
to maybe 2pm for normal
listening, but such input will not be able to make the amp clip, and
nobody
needs to make the amp clip.

V2 is power amp input
SE triode with
GNFB applied to its cathode R15. V3 & V4 form LTP with differential

gain approx 17x.

Q1 is a CCS for commoned cathodes which
ensure the two Va have equal amplitude if the anode loads
are
equal with modern metal film anode load resistors. Notice that I have the
Q1 set up running with positive
base and emitter voltage supplies. This
means Ek of V3, V4 are at +32Vdc, and the B+ for the two triodes is

+375Vdc - 32Vdc = 343Vdc, and their Ea = 178Vdc. The Ea and Ia is high
enough to obtain very low
THD at 25Vrms output with 47k dc load and
following 150k bias resistors which give total triode load of 36k.

V5 & V6 output EL34 work in a normal cathode biased EL34 class AB1
ultralinear output stage, with
UL taps at 33%. Each EL34 idles at Pda
= 20Watts. This means the maximum possible pure class
A =
18Watts, requiring the RLa-a = 14k4. The OPT has nominal ZR 4k3 : 4, 8, 16,
so to get pure
class A you will need to connect speakers with Z =
13r2, 26r4, 52r6. The only practical way to get pure
class A is
to use 16 ohm speakers connected to the 4r0 outlet.
If anyone wanted
to increase the possible class A, and get more class A with a lower Z
speaker,
they can have EL34 idling at 25Watts each and use a lower B+
of say +425V with Iadc = 60mA,
and then 22 Watts class A is
possible with RLa-a = 12k5, but you still need an 11r4 speaker at 4r0
outlet.
It is quite impossible to all pure class A Po with 4 or 8 ohms
with EL34, and use of KT88
with higher Pda at say 32 Watts each
and Ia at 80mA is needed to get RLa-a to 9k0, which allows use of

8r0 speaker at 4r0 tap. Class A Po max is 28Watts each with the high Ia in
KT88. Original ST70 power
transformers would probably overheat badly if
supplying 320mAdc to a quad of KT88, so I do NOT
recommend using
KT88 unless you keep the Iadc at the same idle 50mAdc used in EL34.

Using an 8r0 speaker connected to 4r0 outlet will raise the RLa-a to
8k6. If Ia in each EL34 = 45mA, then the
class A possible = 8.7Watts,
and class AB total up to about 25Watts. This should sound better than with
8r0
speaker connected to 8r0 outlet where you will get 4.3Watts of
class A and 35Watts AB total.

I did not think I needed to retain
fixed bias because cathode bias gives the best natural regulation of Ek at
idle.
The 35Watts Class AB1 possible in original ST70 relied on fixed
bias, where Ek remains near 0Vdc.
But with GZ34 the B+ of +450Vdc
sags considerably if you crank volume to 35Watts.

I have used
cathode bias, and with Si diodes and a better PT with lower winding losses
so B+ does not
sag much. But Ek with cathode bias can rise from my
idle value of +35Vdc to maybe +60Vdc if the RL
is low and amp is
brought up to clipping with a continuous sine wave. But average levels of
music signals
are NEVER the same as a sine wave. Average music levels
are governed by the onset of clipping at
the peaks in the music
signal, so during drum beats and other short lived transients. The use of
large value
cathode bias caps, say 470uF means that Ek stays virtually
constant while producing an average level of
say 5Watts, with
peaks rising to 35Watts. So if a Vdc volt meter is clipped across the Ck,
you will be surprised to
find the Vdc won't change while the music is
intolerably loud.

In Fig1, 1999, I used
5 Watt 39V zener diodes in series with 47r 5W across the Rk & Ck
network.
This worked to limit the rise in Ek to about +44Vdc
for Ia total of 144mAdc, possible during sustained
class AB
working with a sine wave, with most Iadc flow through zener diode and 47r.
The rise of Ek
was not enough to mis-bias the tube, and THD remained
low, and Po high, all very like fixed bias.
At low Ia, the
zener diodes do not conduct at all and the 750r are free to act  to
keep the Iadc regulated.

In practice, the zener diodes rarely will
ever conduct because Ek will remain fairly stable with normal

average music levels even where peaks of signal reach clipping.

Therefore there is not much need of the zener diodes or 47r, and I never
used the method in other
class AB re-engineered and new hi-fi
amplifiers after 1999.

In the 1999 schematic, the zener diodes +
47r will allow about +4Vdc across 47r before the protection

circuit activates to turn off the amp. If a tube becomes faulty its Iadc
could rise to 144mA before the
amp is turned off. This means the tube
could be destroyed by overheating if the idle Ikdc rose to
just
under 144mA. THEREFORE, the resistances between 47r and SCR gate would need
very careful
adjustment so that Vdc across 47r was maybe only +2Vdc,
when total Ikdc = 98mA. But that all means
that Ek would not have
to rise very far before tripping the the SCR.
Fig 1 just acts
like having a 144mA fuse in the cathode circuit - it stops catastrophic
melt downs.
Two years after the new owner bought the amp he brought it
to me because the protection circuit kept
tripping. One EL34 had
developed a dry joint inside one heater pin. So only one EL34 of a pair in
one channel
was turned on. When music was played, the Idc in this EL34
saturated the E&I OPT core and large signal
currents with
high distortion flowed at low levels, and amp was turned off BEFORE the
tube could get hot.
I re-soldered the heater pin in EL34 and the amp
returned to working perfectly and I have not seen it since.

In
my revised Fig 2 amp schematic, and without the zener diode + R, Ek is
allowed to rise to +55Vdc
without any signal before the amp is
turned off, when Ikdc = 73mA, and Pda = 30Watts. If the EL34 has

Ikdc at say 70mA, its Pda = 29W, and will be slightly hot, but will survive
being ignored for awhile, and
when Ikdc goes just a bit higher the amp
is turned off. This is more user friendly than if I stayed with zener

diodes a low value shunt R.

There are a number of other reasons
why excessive Ikdc flow may occur, and why it is good practice
to
have such protection, such as :- turning up the volume with a shorted
speaker cable, or a random
failure of an EL34 occurs, might be old
age, or teenagers are in charge of volume control.

The Dynaco company claimed their amps were
stable, but I found stability to be conditional.

Nearly all amp makers said their amplifiers were very stable, but failed
to say it only applied if a pure
resistance load was used. In other
words, the stability depended on a "correct" load which was the

ideal speaker which resembled a pure resistance of a single nominal
value. So the amps they made
were NOT unconditionally stable, and
many oscillated at LF without a  speaker connected, or at HF

and almost always if a 0.22uF cap was across the output with no
speaker load. Most amp makers
avoided the extra work of making their
products unable to oscillate without any load or with at any

possible combination of L, C or R load,  Most amp buyers do not
understand stability. They think,
OK, its on the bench, it won't fall
off, so its stable, OK? WTF is oscillation? What is the load?

what is inductance, capacitance, resistance and phase shift? 95% of amp
buyers are so ignorant
they don't ask such questions. I'm not here
to explain and teach basics which keener minds pursue.

All amps must be made stable, and free of any oscillations under any
condition whatsoever.
Peaks in the sine wave response between 0.0Hz
and 30Hz and above 20kHz to 2MHz should be less
than +1dB
with resistance loads, and not above +6dB with pure C load anywhere above
20kHz.
Overshoots on square waves should not be greater than 6dB.
The likelihood of LF oscillation is
most likely with no
resistance load at output, and at HF when a sole capacitor load of 0.05uF
to
1uF is used. Oscillation is caused by phase shift reaching 180
degrees between input and output,
and when Global GNFB is used,
the NFB network sends what has become positive feedback, GPFB,

back to input which allows oscillations. The cause of phase shift are
R&C coupling, Miller C,
leakage inductance, primary inductance,
multiple stages in the amp, and the amount of NFB used.

This
amp uses several R&C networks for stability.......
HF :-

C8 & R21 are a "Zobel" network to reduce HF open loop gain
above 20kHz, and lessen open loop phase
shift between 40kHz and
300kHz, thus keeping NFB negative, not positive.

C15
& R34, across OPT primary. This network lessens output tube gain
above 20kHz and provides
a resistance load when most speaker Z has
risen due to their inductance in voice coils. The resonances

due to LL and shunt C become damped by the R36 and ringing on square
waves is lessened.
Use of a pair of zobel networks, say 2k2 + 4n7 may
be tried from OPT CT to each anode connection.

R38
& C17 across 16 ohm winding. This loads the OPT sec with a resistance
at above 150kHz.
It may not seem important, but I had a reason to add
this network.
Some amps have 15r0 + say 0.22uF and XC = R at
48kHz, so at 100kHz, the network is mainly resistive.

R37
& C16 in GNFB path. R37 sets the amount of NFB, and the value
of  ß, the fraction of output signal
appearing at top of
R15, 100r, and hence applied to V2 cathode, so that the tube acts like a
differential
amplifier with two inputs, to grid, and to cathode.

C16 causes some phase advancement of NFB signal which
compensates for phase lag in tubes and from
LL of OPT. C16 must NOT
be too large or else very high F oscillations can occur. C16 is
interactive with
C8 used at V2 output.

LF
:-
C6 & R20 are parallel R&C to reduce LF open loop gain
below 32Hz so that at 3.2Hz,
the input to V3 is attenuated by
about -14dB, and effective GNFB at such LF is
reduced by
-14dB, and the amp has its "margin of stability" extending down to F
where
there is very little gain at all.

The values for all C and R used for
stabilizing are a guide only, and must be confirmed by
experiment to be
best.
Nobody should assume values I show in this schematic
will always suit the amp they build
or modify.

Fig 3.

Fig 3 shows the protection schematic I would use now. The circuit
board shown may usually
be less than 40mm x 120mm, and able to be
fitted somewhere under the chassis. There will be
flexible lead
wires from points A to L to various other circuit components and
connections.
I show points H, I, J, K taken to cathodes of 4 output
tube cathodes where cathode bias is used.
Then I have R7, R10,
R12, R14 shown as unknown R values. But all four R have the same R,

and just what would it be?

When applying this schematic in the
reformed ST70 with EL34, we must know all we are doing, so,
we
know from Fig 2 that Ikdc = about 47mAdc, and Ek is about +35Vdc, when Pda
is a very safe
20Watts. We want the protection circuit to work when Ek
reaches +55Vdc when Pda = 30Watts.

The SCR will latch on when
its gate voltage reaches +0.65Vdc, or just over. The gate input current

for "sensitive gate" type of C106D is 30uA, and can be neglected. The
0.65Vdc is across R8 2k2
So we need 0.3mAdc input to gate circuit at
+0.65Vdc. The diodes d5 to d8 begin conduction
when forward
voltage = about 0.45V, and expect 0.5V at 0.3mA for 1N4007. Therefore the
Vdc
across any one of R9, R11, R13, R15 1k0 much be +1.15Vdc before
the SCR "trips".

Suppose
V1 has excessive Ek at  +55Vdc.
The current in diode d5 plus in R8 1k0 = 0.3mA
+ 1.15mA = 1.45mAdc for SCR to trip.
This total must flow in R7, and
Vdc across R7 = 55V - 1.45V = 53.55V so the R7 must be calculated

as V / I = 53.55V / 1.45mA = 36.9k, and a non standard value. Fig 3 shows I
have calculated 42k,
but R7can probably be 39k. The higher the value
of R7, the higher is the Ek and Iadc, so less
protection.

The lower the value of R7, the lower is the Ek and Ia, so protection is
more sensitive,for SCR to trip.
The operation MUST be carefully tested
by increasing grid bias positively with a pot, and slowly,
and
measuring the Ek when SCR trips. The other test is to use a dummy 2 ohms at
4r0 outlet, and
slowly crank up volume to clipping, and the Ek rise
should trip SCR at just over clipping. This test
also means that
4r0 or 8r0 used at 8r0 and 16r0 outlets also cause SCR tripping at
clipping.
Use of 4r0 loads connected to 16r0 outlet is a very bad
mistake often made by many owners who
don't realize there are any
laws of Physics. My protection circuit will annoy them and they'll never

understand I am trying to save them from the effects of their
ignorance.

Fig 4

Fig 4 shows a slightly better PSU than I used in 1999. I used what I could scrounge from local

cheap suppliers. Now the prices for electrolytic caps are cheaper
in real terms and very reliable,
thanks to modern computer controlled
production.
The Fig 1999 schematic
shows deletion of GZ34, and use of a PT I wound myself and a
voltage
doubler B+ supply. I used slightly bigger uF value for filter
capacitors which were placed in a
metal box on the chassis
top and in the area available after removal of old caps and tube
rectifier.

Fig 4 above shows what could be done if the original
PT is retained. This assumes your existing
PT runs nice and
cool, T rise < 10C above ambient. The sample I rebuilt in 1999 had a
very hot
PT after a couple of hours.
Using replacement
PT for ST70 is not difficult if the PT used has same plan dimension and
has
higher stack which can give the same required voltages with
higher current ratings.
then the use of KT88 / 6550 / KT90 can be
considered. But if an external stereo line preamp plus
phono
stages is to be powered from the existing octal socket, then 6.3Vac
heater current may
total 8A. So the 6.3V winding should be well
rated for 9A.
On a new PT, there is no need for a 5Vac winding. The
new PT should be able to provide DC
heating for all tubes
except the output tubes, and including any tubes in a remote preamp or

radio tuner etc. Any new PT should have a spare pair of 6.3Vac
windings each rated for 3A,
and usually you can make two supplies
of 12.6Vdc or 6.3Vdc, with one supply for power
amp chassis
tubes and other for remote preamp or tuners etc.

In Fig 4 I show
2 x 6CG7 heaters with same 6.3Vac used for EL34. These 6CG7 are the two

long tail pairs in power amps. The two 12AU7 used for possible
V1 integrated line amp
and power amp input V2 should have Idc
heating which one often finds is the best way to
keep the amp
hum level very low.

If the
integrated preamp is not to be included, V1 and V2 can be
paralleled with 1 x 12AU7
used for each channel where I show
V2. The anode dc loads can be reduced along with
cathode Rk
so that Ia for both triodes totals about 7mA, with Ea the
same.

There
are no pictures of the Turnerized Dynaco ST70 which was sold before there
was
a Turner Audio website.
The appearance was
relatively unchanged except for absent tube rectifier, capacitor

box on top of the chassis, increased size of  power transformer,
12 x 8mm dia holes
drilled through steel chassis top around each
output tube socket,  holes drilled in the
bottom cover,
brass sub-chassis for more input tubes, selector switch, balance and

gain controls on the front, led indicators, and a black painted
original cage over the amp.
The new owner said he liked to be able
to hear the musicians turning their pages,
and he liked the
clear, warm, dynamic and untiring sound.

And
here's another possibility......
Fig 5.

This amp channel shows very similar operation to ST70, but uses a
negative bias supply for CCS to V3, V4
cathodes to maximize the Ea
of the two triodes and increase Ia, and lower the LTP distortion.

My
other closely related page is for Dynaco MkIV monobloc
re-engineering.

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